I dont really understand the point of admin glasses? It moreso just increased the grounds powergamers have. If they were grabbing secglasses beforehand they are and are allowed go and grab them still.
I think sec glasses are supposed to be restricted to just sec and HoS and not everyone in command so that would in turn somewhat prevent from all of command grabbing them.
I’m also not sure I follow on how it increases grounds for powergamers
you are not allowed to anymore, secglasses are now security item only
it just doesn’t get enforced
im pretty sure its command + sec, otherwise there would be arguments about HoS not being able to use them
HoS is security, + I recently checked, it’s sec only now
One thing I know is that Sec glasses are strictly security, at least when I played, the only time it was different when Cap, signed some papers and gave himself and other command sec glasses, but since the addition of admin glasses… I for real don’t know, Haven’t played yet, but I’m pretty sure what Djunge meant that, If Hos or warden refused to give glasses to command they would play the Command card or call cap.
Not sure how it’s powergaming to know someone’s ID icon- especially HoP where you’ll get their ID anyways. The Admin glasses also aren’t flash proof unlike sec glasses (unless they fixed this). On top of that, there’s only two pairs and not all command gets it.
As HoP it helps a lot with job changes knowing someones ID before they give it to you just to have a visual indicator to do my job better. Especially with that stupid console bug where it sets people to passenger. I can ask for their ID back to try and fix it so sec doesn’t yell at the poor people.
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sec glasses are REALLY good at showing you who stole your id with syndie/thief gloves (the id icon of the antag will change into your id icon at the same time your id icon turns into a ?). That’s the main reason why most command mains scream at sec for get those glasses roundstart every shift (never give command the right to use secglasses, never again).
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I am sure they we’re added to solve a problem to some extend, it does help and give you some tips about some things that command struggle with for some time. Myself i got happy when i’ve seen them as captain because i could recognize who’s who faster and not uh… mistake someone dressed as hop, being hop.
I haven’t seen any command ever besides HoP n Cap go get the sec glasses. Yea it makes thieves jobs harder, but you can just not steal an ID in front of sec/command too. Not to mention I’ve caught people stealing IDs without the glasses simply by shift clicking to see what’s in their hand or them being the only person that invaded my bubble to steal something
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command glasses will be just as good at this niche as secglasses. The main point is that command glasses A) do not let you see mindshields, and therefor know if someone is truly command or not and B) do not let you see the wanted status of the person, letting them (potentially) get interactions with you without immediately getting stunned and cuffed.
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Yep, it was also added because of valid hunting Captains and HoPs
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