BailensdeLykenos - Self Antag:Spilling all the jugs of meds after security took their contraband. Banned indefinetly due to a history of offenses.

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Username: BailensdeLykenos

Ban reason: Self Antag:Spilling all the jugs of meds after security took their contraband. Banned indefinetly due to a history of offenses.
Length of ban: Indefinite - Appeal Only
Ban Issue:
The ban is fair, but I would like a second chance or reduction

Vote Opt-Out: true

Events leading to the ban

  • Security preformed a department sweep on Medical following a false bomb threat.
  • Chemist Jared Moore refused a strip search, was found in possession of Combat Gloves.
  • Chemist Jared Moore threw a fit, after returning from Security, threw all the medicine onto the floor.
  • Chemist was beaten to death and round proceeded normally.

Reason the ban should be removed

I believe Security violated Space Law and/or etiquette by preforming a departmental sweep on Medical without proper authorization or proper reasonable articulable suspicion. (Code Blue was called ~20 minutes prior to incident, supposed “bomb threat” was never verified or found.)

I do not have a history of offenses as the above suggests. Pretty much everyone who plays has a history of offenses.

I have ~2.6k hours in Space Station, averaging to about a thousand shifts, with roughly a dozen reports on things such as power-gaming and minor “self-antag” incidents. I believe this is indicative that i generally do not have a problem with self antagonism or breaking the rules. I do not believe this was a case of “self-antagonism”, I believed i had the right as Chemist to abuse them.

This is the 2nd appeal for this incident, i retracted the first appeal and re-appealed under a more concise description of events and Vote Opt-Out in an attempt to get this processed.

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Appeal #1 (RETRACTED BY USER)

I read the note that Nikthechampion left, and i am happy that my report (regardless of the part i played) will be used in determining or underlining future behavior and protocol.

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The problem I see here is that you have had far more chances than the average user.

The vast majority of players never receive a ban. Many never receive a note. You have five bans and sixteen notes. Even with the 865 hours you have logged on wizden, you are a statistical outlier. I would expect a player with this many hours to not have any issues following the rules. You have had consistent issues with the rules dating back the whole time you’ve played.

With this in mind, it’s hard to justify appealing this ban for a ‘second’ chance. Especially if you continue to assert that security searching a department for bombs after a bomb threat under blue alert is a massive overreach of power and that you have a ‘right to abuse them’.

The description of events as I see them based on your summary is that you were arrested for being intentionally obstructive, had contraband taken away, and then you proceeded to throw a temper tantrum. And you believe this is not a problem? You believe this is gameplay that is positive?

I want to give you another opportunity to explain the chain of events, as well as whether or not you believe you acted appropriately. Perhaps I misread, or perhaps you didn’t convey what you intended to.

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Please Respond to the previous question, or this appeal will be closed due to lack of responses

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Firstly, I sorta expected to be a ‘statistical outlier’ in terms of players, i tend to play for long stretches and for a few shifts at a time. In my experience, the ‘vast majority’ of players do not do this. I believe the mixture of my limited playtime and long sessions are a bad combination for a roleplaying atmosphere, i tend to get more engrossed in the game and forget about rule restrictions. I’m also enrolled in anger management IRL for unrelated familial issues.
If i have to run the station by myself, i’ll goddamn try to.

The things i’ve been warned / punished for are;

  • Powergaming Chloral Hydrate as CMO (no longer a punishable offence).
  • Carrying contraband (suspicious toolbox) to Shuttle as CMO.
  • Breaking into the AI Core (prior to AI Core’s addition) as a non-antagonist.
  • Getting pissed at the staff, insulting / leaving ahelp.
  • Breaking Revolutionary rules by emptying a gun magazine after Head death, classified ‘Mass RDM’
  • Singing ‘La Festin’ in the Bar (Ratatoullie main theme).

When i stated “I have a right to abuse them”, it was in reference to the jugs of medicine that i worked hard on creating, then destroyed in a “temper tantrum” as it is described.

I spent the shift making all the various medicines as Chemist, and got lucky maintinence diving for Welding Fuel and found Combat Gloves. I was commended by medical workers for my work.

After a supposed “bomb threat”, Security demanded a strip search from everyone in Chemistry. I refused, was taken to Security, interrogated by the Warden, and released. I returned to medbay and exploded with rage at the CMO, and threw the jugs of medicine onto the floor. The idea that my compliance would’ve helped Security identify the threat, or that by surrendering my contraband would prevent any issues, is complete hoopla and you know it.

I do believe there was an overreach, miscommunication, or mislead somewhere that led to security barging into Chemistry looking for a strip search, as when reviewing replay, i found no bomb threat call for help, or radio chatter about a bomb in/near medical

That does not excuse my refusal to consent or behavior afterwards, i was fuming at what the Warden said to me directly while in prison; “You weren’t working hard at all.”

I’ve played SS13 with little to no problems, i found their security force much more laid back, and there is more focus on being chill and developing the story.
As of writing this, i have 2 notes on SS13 /TG/ station, one for “breaking revive protocol”, and one for saying the R “slur”.

If i have consistent issues with obeying the rules, then it is clear i should not continue playing and harassing the administration with appeals. It is clear that SS14 is attemping to establish a specific playerbase, and if i am no longer welcome, then so it shall be.

I enjoy the birthday party i had on Salamander, and i will not forget the hundreds of funny moments i witnessed and got to be a part of.

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Ive read the most recent announcements regarding the Administration team, and my heart goes out to this game, but I am not inclined to beg and plead for forgiveness, especially not from a toxic cadre of people pretending to hold more power than they really do.
Playing this game is not a necessity.

The 2nd to last paragraph you typed indicates that i was a problem and breaking rules by being “intentionally obstructive” by refusing a strip search that i felt was unlawful, ignoring the fact i refused because i was actively holding contraband and i knew it. Rather than Security reason with me or explain the situation, i was strong-armed into compliance and insulted. You then consider my reaction of trashing my work station a ‘temper tantrum’ which i am not disputing.
" And you believe this is not a problem? You believe this is gameplay that is positive?"
This is a roleplaying game, i dont believe it is either inherently positive or negative, your choices should define the outcome.