Criminal code Suggestion: 2-07 False reporting of emergencies

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Singloose!, Bomb in medbay!, Telsaloose! AI Anti-mov’d!, Zeds! there are many very very important calls that can cause mass station wide panic most of the time its used by crew correctly, and departments change how they act acordingly.

Every now and again though some clown will falsely call for these crisis causing station wide panic as its funny.

Right now the only criminal code that would cover this action is a 1-07 distrubance which Is more to things like public nudity obstructing people and people being obnoxious and anoying.

I would like to introduce the 2-07 Law for falsely reporting these very hostile situations and causing undue station wide panic a law to reflect simaliar IRL laws such as calling fire in a crowded theater as a Level 2 crime rather than a level 1 it can allow arrest and upto 5 minutes jail time for falsely reporting these very serious situations, discourging folks for false reporting.

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okay but. this will lead to the same thing that happens IRL. where people may not report minor crimes because they are afraid they get it wrong or whatever and they get arrested for false reports.

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If a false report causes a panic that would indeed fall under causing a public disturbance. No need to create a new category for it

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yeah but being nude or just anoying isn’t on the same level as causing station wide panic imo, having it be a Teir 2 crime makes it way better.

Minor crimes wasn’t in this… It would be major events. things as listed like Zeds, nukies, Bombs. something that is gonna cause a big impact. baring in mind a Tier 2 crime can be let off with a warning or upto 5 minutes time.

The way I think about it is this; Someone calls Singloose/telsa, everyone drops what they are doing and checks a map, assuming it takes 1 minute of time to find a map, you just wasted collectively 20-80 minutes of crew time for a prank.

question I pose is;

  • Is this closer to walking into a department without asking, taking something from somone, or vandalism
  • Is this closer to failure to listen to orders, wrecklessly endangering the crew, or destruction of properity.
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and If its closer to a level two crime shouldn’t it have a conerquence that matches?

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that already exists, if they just make small fake call to mess with people, its disturbance

if they do big fake call to cause mass panic, its endangerment

if he refuses to stop doing fake calls, thats failure to comply on top of the relevant crime

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I dont think a big fake call can come under endangerment, in real life it would as stampeeds and all that but in game no one can really get hurt by fake calling Bomb in the bar. This is why I feel we need a law specifically for this behavior thats more harsh than distrubance just for these. The on going poll seems to have a sligh lean in agreement that its closer to a Tier 2 crime than a Tier 1 crime we just need a law to represent that and the x-07 line seems suitable

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“fake bomb call can t hurt anyone”

Security gets armed / code red / security start searching and trying to move people away from bomb (and of course crew makes their life harder) / they realize there is no bomb and some people gibbed by antags because sec was too focused on finding bomb

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yup they arm code red arrive and womp womp no bomb. crimes caused else where are not the falut of the prankster and they cant be charged with those crimes only given a warning for distrubance.

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they indirectly harmed people and maybe harmed more because security now thinks there might be armed guy around, so its reasonable to charge him with endangerment

also check #we need more laws / post

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Maliciously calling out fake singulooses and bombs over and over is endangerment because the person doing it is in danger of getting magdumped by me.

We have laws to cover false callouts; disturbance and endangerment are intentionally vaguely defined to cover wider ground, such as this.

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Also, there is the attribute where you hear random audio hallucinations. such as zeds. That person COULD call out zeds when they hear them and just be a RP thing not malicious.

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Yeah I know about that one, with zed call i think it would depend more how you word it, shouting “ZEDS!!” is likely to get you in more trouble than “Erm… I think I hear zeds…” but as a 2-07 law, even a false call can be given a warning so if sec came over and was like “you called zeds but we dont have zeds” you could reply that you heard them as get a warning. that was why I specially think its a 2-07 standard rather than a 1-07 distrubance the poll I setup has 57% agree that it should be a level 2 crime rather than a level 1 crime.

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Since hallucinations and non-malicious RP issues where mentioned…

I want to add some funny interaction with the pathological liar trait (i forgor the name). Where as a high standard role, it has led me to say some problematic stuff. Like seeing someone come up to me and trying to say “Yes” and saying “No” like if i don’t even want to hear them, or being asked if there where zombies and saying the opposite of the fact over comms.
But i feel like it is fine? I generally want to respect the answer that comes out, but even if i decide “ok, this time it is going to go too poorly if i don’t clarify” it isn’t always possible to correct in time.

So, i don’t think i have to ask this to begin with, but i assume that issues of that degree would not be a bannable offense if you where to carry them out?

Like, if a captain kills someone (or similar) because they tought they where a zombie due to hallucinations. That would be fine (?)

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its double edged sword, either sec punish false calls made by mistake and people never report stuff again

or they just accept that sometimes some people mistaken the sounds and they still get false calls time to time