We have 4 servers, 1 is mrp, 1 is for testing. Levi and Lizard are commonly full and vulture is full during prime times, salamander is except from this due to their application process. I have been attempting to get my friends into SS14 but it’s hard when the servers they should start out with and could join are full. I wish we could have another Lrp server maybe just ran during full times when the others are too full like an overflow, but there’s people like my friends who want to play and can’t get in.
Hell, it’s why I signed up for salamander, so I could play consistently without pressing refresh every 5 seconds hoping someone leaves.
Example: this was taken on 6/21/2025 at 8:26 PM EST
The admins felt like there were more servers than admins to support them, but now we have some more admins it’s not out of the question to consider more.
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The Return of Grasshopper…
Perhaps it’s time to create an HRP server too?
That’s an issue if you look specifically at wizden servers.
But SS14 is wider than that.
You shouldn’t really just stick to wizden. There are plenty of other servers with open slots even during prime time. People shouldn’t be afraid to branch out. Having other options is part of the game’s beauty and it’s foolish to deny oneself the variety.
If it was up to me, I’d love to see another round of trails and then we could try expanding.
I think that’s a bad plan for WizDen - in my experience, HRP servers work best when they’re not super popular, are whitelisted, and are closely moderated. They also usually have different rules from MRP. All this allows the RP quality to be curated more effectively.
- Any server bearing the WizDen name is going to be subject to increased visibility, because it’s WizDen.
- A HRP server would ideally have a separate whitelist from the MRP server, which increases the admin workload.
- Having eyes on the server more often will increase admin workload.
- A new set of amendments would further increase confusion about the different rulesets - I already see a lot of confusion about which rules are MRP-only, and which aren’t. Imagine throwing HRP rules in on top of that…
I think it’s best for HRP to remain with downstream or otherwise unofficial servers. WizDen doesn’t have to satisfy all types of player on its own, and it probably shouldn’t aim to - there’s already enough trouble with certain features being good for LRP but bad for MRP, or vice versa.
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If admin capacity is sufficient to allow for greater population, I would prefer the population caps to be increased back to pre-crisis levels before reopening grasshopper.
Food for thought, limiting official servers allows non-official servers and codebases to thrive. There’s a finite amount of players, even though they are increasing in number (I think). If there were more official servers then there would be less players for other servers.
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The worst part about HRP is that it is VERY subjective.
It is not about just staying on character, it is about playing a convincing character too that sticks to their personality. And for that to be the case you would also have to pre-emptively write a backstory which an admin would have to consider when passing judgement, and they would need to understand the same from that backstory as you did when writing it.
HRP is very difficult to keep as HRP. Even the most careful servers fail at it pretty often.
Most SS13 servers that say HRP are just MRP with an ego.
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As a person that played HRP 4 hour shifts and all. You are pretty spot on.
HRP only works via whitelist and require very custom server coding.
For example HRP i was on in ss13 had asteroid even but every rock was 2 minutes apart(RP takes time). And decompression was dealt with differently, by blocking decompressed part of station(AI). And only letting specialized personal in there(Engies). And it was locked from crew until its rebuilt, heated and oxygen was on level, with expection from CE right after.
Combat on HRP is also different and played out like its colonial marines(nukies vs station). Since our sec literally run training allmost every shift(4 hours, halftimes greenshift duh) and war\blitz ops have a good chance of getting slaughtered against sec players that played together for weeks.
Normal people could use guns(non OP, salv or sec) but their accuracy would be so bad and guns would jam after like 4 shoots so you need cycle chamber.
Plant growing mutations and other things also took a bit longer. And if you needed to go, you just leave sighed paper at HoP and cryo.
There even shift within shift(like player A babysit singulo for 20 min and then get swapped by player B and so on).
P.S. Also Librarian was the only one allowed to have pretty much omni knowledge as long as he had book in his bag.
It`s was also applied to other people for example is you character(lts say clown) doesnt know chemistry. Then you need to ask librarian for a book.( he was the only one allowed to know about metaphysical threats outside command and chaplain too)
P.S.S. And if station got damaged, it was time to build habitat planetside. Since if antena was destroyed before evac was called. It`s survival game until end of shift. Which was pretty fun ngl. Especially interacting with chem to figured out way to generate oxygen and nitrogen from what we had. Since atmosphere is Miasma and we need to heat it up to get oxygen and if a lot of crew survived, we would need a lot of it. Nitrogen generation was mostly fully on chem
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I had not even tought of the mechanical side tbh. But yeah.
HRP is something that the game is not even built for atm.
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Took me like 20 mins to find this thread again lol but taken at around 2:30am Central USA, and I see these numbers pretty frequently lately. These used to be my low-pop hours… 
There is a lot of european players in wizden servers that aren’t really into the servers based in europe and would much rather play on wizden. So yeah, our evenings are early afternoon in the US, and our mornings are late night for US people. That might be why population is less indexed on US timezones than before
I mean that’s very valid 
The vanilla experience is peak SS14 in my opinion, I do like other servers though. Hopefully tho we can see the reemergence of Grasshopper or something soon
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