Ivan Bivan - Aggressive in ahelp

Ban reason: Aggresive in ahelp
Length of ban: 12 hours or 720 minutes
Events leading to the ban: Admins decided to do a special round. Round started, I chose to be in Atmos. Captain sent out a message to listen to security personnel as well as your own chiefs. The chief engineer told us to prepare something deadly with gas or poison for the station and arm ourselves. We prepped the distro or some guy did at least and then we announced in our Engineering channel we’ll setup a plasma pipe to flood. The CE approved, both on the channel as well as in person when he got back to the department as they were all building a shuttle. Stuff happens, CE then yells on the channel to let the plasma out, so we do. Admin “The Grinch” writes to me within a minute of doing that and asks me why I’m filling distro with plasma, chat as seen below then proceeds to ban for me being aggressive in ahelp:

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Reason the ban should be removed: I don’t think it appropriate that an admin says I need to chill out and instigate a situation that we created for RP reasons within the context of the round as atmosphere engineers. I also don’t think it’s okay that bans are handed out, even for 12 hours, to prove a personal point because they felt offended, that I ALSO told them to chill out. That’s just disappointing more than anything else. 

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your head of staff telling you to break the rules does not make it OK for you to break the rules

Considering the ban has expired there isn’t really that can be done here other than see if the ban is proper and note that down for future admins when considering action. It seems that the ban is proper so no action will be taken. Appeal closed.

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Also for the record, the Banning Admin is Chief_Engineer.(Not to be confused with the Chief Engineer in that round.)

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