TEG - General setup theory, information, tips and a diagram

Hello everyone!

I am Praett and here is a diagram and some advice on how to set up a TEG with things to keep in mind.

Firstly the TEG is a 3x1 structure and for both of the closed plasma loops on either end it has a specific direction which compared to each side always goes in opposing directions, you can check this direction by shift clicking on the side you are working on.

Using Volumetric gas pumps as opposed to gas pumps is because of the difference in function, where volumetric gas pumps force movement (about 200L/s), gas pumps allow specific kPa’s of gas to be let through making it better for precision, on this point as per the diagram shown above it might be for the best to add a gas pump leading from the connector pump into the hotloop to avoid injecting too much plasma, though as long as you have the passive vent you can regulate the pressure, this pressure regulation on the hotloop is needed because the gas as per real life vibrates taking up more space and causing a higher kPa in the pipes which causes the pumps to clog as they have a kPa threshold which is about 9000 kPa. (might be wrong)
Therefore about 50kPa plasma is suggested in the hotloop, for the coldloop it doesn’t matter because it functions the opposite way.

The hotmix for the burner room requires a ratio of about 95-5% to 98-2% oxygen-plasma, personally I make use of the latter percentage.

List of items used:
-Volumetric Gas Pump
-Gas Pump
-Gas Pipe Straight
-Gas Pipe Bend
-Radiator
-Air Scrubber
-Air Injector
-Connector Port
-Manual Valve
-Passive vent
-Gas Mixer (if you need to combine the oxygen and plasma in the gas generation room)

I hope this was helpful and if you have any advice or questions on anything I missed feel free to tell me.

With kind regards,
Praett Weinilis.

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This got double posted somehow, so I deleted the extra one (embedded media posts get held until verified by staff).

This is a good diagram for people learning the full closed dial loop however!

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Here is how I do my teg;

Ensure a volmetric pump 200 goes into both hot and cold input line (not output as some deafalt tegs are setup like)
Hot loop I have my plasma can on 101kpa. (default) pressure pump

The burn chamber I have at 350 input pressure pump using 3% plasma, 97% Oxy (provided from distro tegmix pipe).
I also have a passive vent inside the chamber connected to a vol pump set to 20 to space to make sure the burn chamber never gets too cold.

Cold loop i attach a plasma can set to 300kpa
I make sure at least 6 raditators are on the cold loop (some stations need extra)

I make about 1.1mw of power all shift once its all setup.

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Informative, though for clarity I’d rather mark pumps with a symbol instead of those dotted lines with arrows. Took me a bit to realize where the pumps are meant to be.

Also I believe TEG doesn’t actually enforce which side is the cold side and which one is hot. Both can be cold or hot, only thing that matters is the temperature (or rather energy) difference between the two sides.

Both pumps “force” gas to move from one pipe network to another. It’s just that volumetric pumps are always set to a fixed ~9000kpa pressure limit with customizable throughput, while regular pumps has a fixed throughput (I think?) with customizable pressure limit up to 4500kpa.

Would be cool to have a pump that has both throughput and pressure limit customizible.

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Ah no it doesn’t force which side is cold or hot, it just forces opposite directional input from what i was told.

as for this i read on a reddit post that it forces movement on sheet volumes of gas regardless of the pressure, which makes it better to use when working with anti clog systems.

a pressure limit pump does sound pretty good ill admit, hell the reverse of that a pressure maintainer pump where it only releases excess to the point where the kPa it is draining from has reached the set amount would be fantastic too.

For future diagrams do you think that this one would be better?

Also thanks for the advice.

On wizden servers, I believe the pressure limit for volume pumps is around 9000kpa. I think other servers like frontier used to have features (bugs) that allowed bypassing this limit depending on build order of atmos devices.

Much better, though volumetric and regular pump look almost identical.

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Pretty solid classic TEG. Great job on diagram(very easy to read)

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Looks good. Be sure to clarify the settings on the pumps, and the hotmix inlet pressure or flow rate, if you want the setup to be purely understood via the image alone.

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If only this diagram existed when I was originally trying to learn TEG… :smiling_face_with_tear: Looks nice and clean, easy to read.

I leave my volumetric pumps for the hot loop at 200kpa, but I only put like 10mols of plasma in the loop. Pumps out 1+MW of power :slight_smile: And to prevent overpresssure in the burn chamber, I just volumetric pump at 20kpa out into space with passive vents to be conservative with the burn mix.

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For anyone willing to add a couple minutes to setup, you can use a pressure valve to regulate the hot chamber by using the tegmix pipe as a control - just add a pump before any split in the tegmix pipe then use a padsive vent inside the chamber to pipe it towards the valve. The pressure difference alone can work fine if you want to just space it, but you can filter the output for trit as well if you want. I’d draw a diagram or make an example, but I’m on mobile right now so I hope words alone are enough til I can get on a PC.