Ban reason:Ban evasion Length of ban:Indefinite Ban Issue: I did not do what I was banned for
Vote Opt-Out:false
Events leading to the ban
I was fasely accused of a ban evasion when i didnt, and i figured out that it was my brother and i already sorted that out with him. and he did infact try and join a wizden server on my computer i confirmed that with him.
discord user: stone_box
"Chief_Engineer — Today at 10:23 AM
ok I heard back from goob and deltav
Please have your brother send a message to game admins on the forums at Space Station 14 Forum. They should log in with their SS14 account and explain that they are your brother, provide the username of your SS14 account, and confirm that the following is true:
They started playing SS14 before you were banned, ideally providing a date if they can
The first server they played on was wizden
The main server they play on is wizden
They’ve also played on deltav and goob
If any of this is incorrect, they should not say it is true, instead they should point out that it is not true and correct it.
After your brother does that, please use your SS14 account on the forums to make a ban appeal:
That gives “ban evasion” as the ban reason
Explains that you believe that you were mistakenly identified as having attempted to evade you ban, and what you believe actually happened
Provide your discord username and confirm that the messages you sent here were sent by you
Provide a link to this message of mine so that an admin doesn’t mistakenly close your appeal thinking that you just decided to make another after being found to be evading your ban"
Reason the ban should be removed
Because i firmly believe the fact that i am innocent and the issue of a lack of filter has been fixed long ago, and i genuinely like playing on wizden, if i did anything wrong please let me know and if i can fix it please tell me it.
Alright so here is where things are at right now, just based off of the things you’ve said since bringing up your brother in discord:
You said your brother uses your computer but that you don’t know the user Kaluncer, then around an hour later said that it’s a username your brother uses.
I asked you to get answers to some questions from your brother. You said your brother wasn’t at home at the time, but later got back with answers to them.
You said your brother started playing a week ago, but when asked to clarify if this was before or after you were banned since you were already banned a week ago you said you made a mistake and it was earlier.
You said that he first played on Wizden, and that he usually plays on Wizden
You said his username is kaluncer
You said he’s played on Wizden, goob, and deltav
I asked you to have your brother send a message to admins on the forums, which he did.
He said that he never used another account to play SS14 and that you are the only person who has ever used his account besides him, before correcting himself saying that he misread the questions and that no one has used his own account before but he has used your account before.
He said he has played around an hour on Wizden.
He said all of that playtime was on your account and that he wasn’t ever able to connect with his own account. This would mean that around a third of your total playtime is actually your brothers.
He said that while he did play on deltav and goob, he didn’t play on either with his own account. Presumably he played on your account.
When asked if he played on any server with his own account, he said only wizden, and that it was after your account was banned.
Does everything here seem correct to you? Please correct any issues you see, but to make things easier to read I’m including this summary:
Your brother has never played SS14 on his own account
Your brother has played on your account, and around a third of your account’s use on wizden is actually your brother
Yes, All of this is correct. He and I do not have a good grasp on time So thats the reason for all of the confusion revolving around times of play. But yes, All of this is correct.
At this point I’m not sure if there’s anything else missing or that might be helpful to you in this situation. If there’s anything you can think of, feel free to add it.
If there isn’t anything else, right now what I’m seeing is:
You and your brother claim to have shared an account.
That account was banned.
One of the people you acknowledge was using your account for a significant proportion of its playtime attempted to create another account after the one you were sharing was banned and attempted to use it to play.
In many instances through the telling of this series of events, you or your brother have made corrections or adjustments to what you’ve said. These things have included whether or not the account belongs to your brother and whether or not there was account sharing, ultimately resulting in what’s described in the previous points.
Again, this is also limited to just the things that have happened after you brought up your brother.
To me, it sounds like this describes a situation where the people using this account attempted to evade a ban placed on that account, but if you think this would convince game admins then I can run a vote as long as you understand that they’d be free to make any adjustment to your ban. Currently, your ban is a voucher ban, meaning that you cannot appeal it for at least 6 months after your last attempt at ban evasion, which would likely be the first time that your brother attempted to connect to Wizden on his account. In a vote, game admins would be free to remove this ban entirely if they’re convinced that you should be unbanned, or do anything up to make it impossible to appeal if for some reason they felt that was appropriate.
Feel free to let me know if you have any questions. If you don’t, then I just need to know if you want to go forward with having the admin team vote.
One Yes please make a vote of some kind,
Two Yes he created his own account after i was banned but i never told him that i was banned.
Three Yes As we tend to rush everything out the door in these kinds of situations leaving many details out in the process so we adjust it.
The admin team was not convinced that this is not a case of ban evasion.
Even the situation as you describe it is ban evasion, just by your brother not you, but since you and your brother shared an account, you and your account would also be banned for ban evasion by your brother. This is explained in our multikey rule:
Use of multiple accounts is referred to as “multikey”. the rule applies even if the accounts are not used at the same time, including if the old account is abandoned. All accounts may be banned if this rule is violated. You are responsible for everything done on and with your account. You are just as responsible for actions taken by other people using your account as you would be had you taken the actions themselves.
That said, it does not seem any admin who participated in the discussion was convinced that your brother was involved in this situation.
You can appeal again no sooner than 6 months from now. When you appeal, you must have not attempted to evade your ban within the last 6 months. You must have a voucher of good behavior from another SS13/SS14 server to appeal.
A voucher of good behavior should be obtained from a well-known or decently active SS13/SS14 server. If it is a mainstream server, we recommend using that server’s admin-help to ask for a voucher from one of the administrators explaining that you are trying to appeal a ban on SS14’s Wizard’s Den and want to show you have been a problem-free player during your playtime on the server. A voucher should be indicative of at least a few months of play.