Hverabrao - See events leading to ban, too many characters to put here

[Hverabrao]

Username: Hverabrao

Banned Roles: Quartermaster, cargo technician, salvage specialist

Ban reason: See events leading to ban, too many characters to put here.
Length of ban: Indefinite
Ban Issue:
I did what I was banned for, but the ban is unreasonably harsh

Events leading to the ban

Ban reason is too long so putting here: Banned from CargoTechnician, SalvageSpecialist, Quartermaster permanently

• Co-operating with known antags and Unreasonable failure as command to
  follow spacelaw: In round #86379 as QM, was aware of a salvage member
  having a holo-para inside of them.
  Wilingly armed up salvage while aware of the holo and proceeded to advocate
  for that holo to not be killed because they worked for them.

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During this round i was playing the QM, Melvyn Gutterswipe, this round i was going to be focusing on salvage as a money making method instead of bounties which turned out to be a far better method for spesos production. With this i intended to hire more salvagers to be able to mine more which led to logan ward the chemist being hired which at the time i purchased two shotgun crates for salvage i was unaware they were a syndicate agent, only finding this out later via radio chatter. The reason for the two shotguns crates was due to me having salvage be on the vgroid for most of the round mining with them complaining to me about goliaths, hence why i bought them weapons. Later on in the round the hired salvager is found to have a holoparasite and a gun which i assume they used to kill someone and i advocate to the captain for logan, not the holoparasite, to be kept alive due to him doing his job in salvage well.

For reference salvage that round made close to 400000+ spesos alone with about 250000 of that being made in the first haul and time inwhich i bought salvage the two shotgun crates.

Reason the ban should be removed

It was never my intention to help a syndicate agent, i simply gave salvage gear to be able to do their job far easier as well as that they did do their job extremely well to which i rewarded.
If the ban is still believed to be fit, i would like to argue for a reduction of not including cargo technician or salvage specialist due to both not being a command role and shouldn’t be affected by a rule that primarily affects command roles.

Alternate Accounts

[HazelHyena]

It’s been almost a month since this ban was placed. It’s an unusual duration for a first offense, and you weren’t directly contacted about it during the round, meaning information on events is limited.
Frankly it seems like there was just some confusion regarding the holoparasite - who had it, when it was known about, etc - and the case doesn’t seem like a big enough deal to go digging into it further. Offhand, I’d say it doesn’t look like you did anything wrong here. Lifting the ban.

[HazelHyena]

Clarification:
Ban’s still lifted, but you knew you had a bunch of syndicate agents in salv at the time from the super surplus crate. You had hired known syndicate agents to work for you, and bought them guns after it was clear that there were traitors in your department. You also specifically came to the defense of the agent with the holoclown, talking to the captain about it.

Further, it was mentioned that you tend to steal the cargo shuttle immediately for expeditions as salvager or QM.
While not a rulebreak in itself, it means your department is frequently unable to make headway on purchases and deliveries, and you have chosen to do this during, for example, warops, making it difficult for the station to arm up.

I mention all of these because while I do believe the ban should be lifted regardless of these actions, you should be aware of what lead to the ban being placed - so that it does not happen again.

[Hverabrao]

Though i don’t agree with some of the points mentioned here, most notably being the borrowing or lending the cargo shuttle during round start to or as salv, i do thank you for this being looked at quickly.