Jagerpanther - "Attempting to start dept revolution, self antag attacking secoff to further that agenda."

[Jagerpanther]

Username: Jagerpanther

Ban reason: "Attempting to start dept revolution, self antag attacking secoff to further that agenda."
Length of ban: Week
Ban Issue:
I did what I was banned for, but the ban is unreasonably harsh

Vote Opt-Out: false

Events leading to the ban

I rolled librarian at round start and because there is no real job with that role and no real reason for someone to visit I would declare my “department” independent and painted revolution around. Some people wished to join and roleplay, I had no intention of actually starting a revolution or causing actual trouble so when asked what the people who wanted to join could do I drew the line at actual issues like murder. More people joined (around 5 roughly) and a secoff walked in trying to arrest a mime, I attacked without weapon and told him to leave because to my knowledge he was just arresting the mime for no reason. then he pulled out his batton, slipped on a banana peel and lost it, then started shooting when we (I actually missed this part) chased him out then he started shooting and got beat. I knew after that we accidentilly self antagged but I wished to go no further. Security’s hands were not tied by any big problems to my knowledge and rarely did secoffs actually come by. Most came by peacefully too. I was getting arrested for I assume what happened when I got the ban. Some time had passed between the main incident and the ban where nothing much happened.

Reason the ban should be removed

We did not actually cause harm to the station, impede anyone’s jobs or roleplay and only responded in self defense. The revolution was only a poor choice of wording and did not intend for me to actually cause revolution. I also did not know that would count as self antag as I did not wish or intend to harm or impede anyones job. Security was mostly unbothered by this besides the incident. All I wished was to roleplay a fun thing with some people and I would have been perfectly okay with in game punishments which were going to happen without the ban. A week long ban is a bit extreme since nothing was actually done to the station or the round and a “department revolt” was the library which is non critical and run by 1 person (me).

Alternate Accounts

[RyanStrudfelt]

I will be closing off this appeal due to the ban having already expired quite a while ago now.

My apologies that this wasn’t seen to sooner, we have all been spread extremely thin as of late with our own personal matters and lives going on.

while what you did was a violation of our rules, I also understand why you may have considered it to be a “Non issue” from your role perspective.

It should be noted that Any form of “Strike action, Revolution, Cult or union” of any kind, is actually a rules violation and does not come with a warning of any kind unless the admin dealing with the situation is feeling extra friendly that day.

the reasoning behind this is that these “groupings” often attract a negative scenario around them. meaning that people will often begin to self antagonise and become problems when they otherwise would not have been, simply because they have become a product of their environment.

Usually the instigator or “Founder” of these groups is dealt with harsher than the ones who just joined up as well.