PatricianChoice - Banned for Rule 3

SS14 account username: Patrician Choice
Ban reason: Violation of Rule 3
Date of ban: 5/20 or 21/ 2023  Late so I’m not sure exact date
Length of ban: Only removed upon appeal
Events leading to the ban: I was playing as a pAI and I was trying to goad the person carrying me into acts of violence and saying generally strange things.  I am aware that it was creepy but I had just wanted it to sound unsettling.
Reason the ban should be removed: So it said something about talking about masturbation and I don’t think I mentioned that at all.  I just used descriptive language that sounded vaguely sexual but was mostly meant to make people uncomfortable and creep them out.  One of the players just happened to incidentally be a woman, not the reason I picked them, they just happened to be there and they were making noises about shooting me into space or wiping me.  I was taking a page from WH40k style Khorne followers as well as those Necrons (undead robot skeleton race) that wear the flesh of their victims, Flayed Ones.  That and Hellraiser.  I literally quoted things from Hellraiser and the cenobites as well as some of their iconography.  I was also thinking of the manga Berserk.  Oh, I forgot Event Horizon as well.  This was mostly a play on horror imagery and language intended to be unsettling and dark like some evil spirit had entered an pAI.  I couldn’t commit any crimes myself, only encourage other people to do so and I did.  Most of what I was saying was lifted from horror movies and games with a dark setting like Warhammer 40000.  It sounded vaguely sexual and it was intentional but I wasn’t talking about sex, I was talking about murder and wearing the skin and body parts of the victims as decoration.  I literally said, “KIll.  Maim.  Burn.” and “Blood for the blood god, skulls for the skull throne.”  Direct quotes from 40k.  I also said something that Pinhead, one of the cenobites in Hellraiser, said.  I did misquote it but it was like, “I have such pleasures to show you” and though in the movie he says, “We have such sights to show you” but I paraphrased off the cuff.  All of these are great examples of horror, especially body horror and considering that Event Horizon/40k are very space oriented I thought it an excellent medium to take inspiration from.  I know there’s a Hellraiser movie that takes place in space, Hellraiser: Bloodlines, but I’m pretty sure that that movie is generally disregarded by the community and was panned by critics.  I did also heavily pull from some of the scenes in that movie as well.  Fun fact:  Doug Bradley, the actor that plays Pinhead, was the only remaining original cast member.

Flayed Ones Ones are Necrons who,mass terror across enemy lines.

Hellraiser / Cenobites

Event Horizon


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1 hour ago, PatricianChoice said:

So it said something about talking about masturbation and I don’t think I mentioned that at all.  I just used descriptive language that sounded vaguely sexual but was mostly meant to make people uncomfortable and creep them out. 



These chat messages certainly mention masturbation and seem to violate rule 3 which reads:


Absolutely no Erotic Roleplay (ERP) or sexual content, including direct or indirect mentions of sexual behavior or actions. (YOU WILL GET PERMABANNED) (Leeway is given to insults, ex: ‘You are a dickhead’, do not push it)

To clarify, is the basis of your appeal that you did not violate a rule with your chat message?

Ah, that rings a bell.  I was trying to embarrass the person carrying me, the HoP, by implying that as his PDA I had been around.  My bad.  Second, I was telling same said person, the HoP, to stab the person who was talking about spacing the PDA I was inhabiting.  Again, I know it sounds sexual but I was really talking about killing her and wearing her skin like clothes.  The whole covered in her fluids was intended to be implied as blood.  I also don’t know of a way to butcher something without getting dirty.  I said I was leaning heavily into the horror tropes and provided the material that I was trying to evoke.  Flayed Ones, as wearing the skin and offal of their victims.  Cenobites and Hellraiser for the for the unknown and the gruesome acts as well as receiving pleasure plus some other parts.  Here’s a quote from Jane Wildgoose, a costume designer who made the apparel that the cenobites wear, on what Clive was looking for “My notes say that he wanted 1. areas of revealed flesh where some kind of torture has, or is occurring.  2. something associated with butchery involved’ and then we have a very Clive turn of phrase, I’ve written down, ‘repulsive glamour’.  And the other notes that I made about what he wanted was that they should be ‘magnificent super-butchers’.”  I was attempting to capture much of the same feelings that I have gotten from the movies.  Another good example are the ‘hell scenes’ from Event Horizon.  The brief flashes that are shown to the viewer of Hell and what awaited them on the other side of the warp.  You can read about this by googling Event Horizon Hell scenes.  This is all leaning real heavy into horror and the iconography that accompanies it and ties back to the fact that we are in space.  From the Hellraiser wiki concerning cenobites “…they manifested as devoted followers of a supernatural hedonism with unorthodox definitions of pleasure; although vaguely described, this form of pleasure endorsed by the Cenobites involved two distinct forms: the expansion of sensation to an extremely painful point of sensory overload, and enduring excuciating pain through incessant tortures that transcend traditional laws of physics.  They exhibited no discernible morality or immorality, merely unwavering devotion to their craft. …”  I spoke of needing to be bathed in blood and here I was actually pulling some ideas from the comic “Johnny the Homicidal Maniac” and the wall in his house that gets soft if he doesn’t keep it covered in blood (something tries to get through when the barrier softens/weakens) as well as more Khorne 40k ideas.  The HoP was a reptilian and I kept saying that it felt good to be clothed in flesh instead of scales again harkening back to the Necron Flayed Ones.  They are infected with a curse that maddens them and gives them a hunger for flesh and blood, they kill so they can feast.  But there’s a caveat here because they are machines and therefor unable to consume the flesh and blood that they crave so, guess what, they can never be satisfied.  Sometimes the need is so great that even in battle they stop fighting to rub chunks of gore across their faces in a facsimile of eating.  A PDA that wants to consume flesh and blood but unable to starting to sound familiar?  Or how about being unable to commit the acts it so desires and instead influences others to commit the acts?  

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Again, is the basis of your appeal that you violated no rules, including not violating the rule 3? I’m not sure if you’re trying to argue that “He cries when he masturbates” isn’t a direct or indirect mention of a sexual behavior or action, or something else.

It was an offhand comment with no thought to the rules.  I didn’t deny it and said my bad, even offered an explanation.

Due to your attempt to evade your ban, you are banned indefinitely. You may appeal your ban, but only at least 6 months after your last ban evasion attempt, and only with a voucher of good behavior from another SS13/SS14 server.

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