It’s becoming more apparent to me that most RP on Salamander (MRP Server) has been diminished by admins and has effectively became a whitelisted LRP server thus ruining the entire point of MRP.
Brigmedics - Apparently you’ll be role banned for this because it just isn’t allowed for some reason? Its perfectly understandable why Security would hire a doctor as a brigmedic. Security is ALWAYS dealing with threats to the station and a lot of the time they are using lethal force. There are even times where Security or Command are extremely injured inside of Security and requires medical attention there. Why would Security not want someone experienced in medical to be stationed at the brig? It saves time from transporting patients to medical and makes it overall safer for Security and the criminal to be inside brig. I’ll even mention that when a CMO and HoS give approval for this WHY IS IT SUCH A BIG DEAL TO ADMINS?? IT’S AN RP SERVER! LET PEOPLE RP!
Pun Pun - It’s been discussed recently that Pun Pun is absolutely not allowed to change jobs to anything else because “It’s a monkey and lacks the intelligence to learn anything but Bartending” which is a stupid argument. It’s also been stated that changing jobs is “Abandoning your role” despite everyone doing it from every department. Pun Pun should be allowed to transfer into the Cargo Department or become an Assistant as both jobs are incredibly easy for a monkey to learn (especially one we taught how to properly mix drinks) I can understand not wanting the monkey to setup tesla or be a doctor (even though chemistry is just Bartending but with chemicals)
There are probably more examples I can find but this is all I have as of now and I’m sure others will add to this. Either way admins have made it extremely clear they do not want RP on the MRP server and it’s sad because we join mander FOR RP. I want to see MRP on mander again and less admin intervention when it comes to RP and more player freedom. We are forced to RP the way admins want us to RP and just are not allowed player freedom.
I can’t argue that mander’s RP has deminished, I saw it happen mysef, it used to be effectively an HRP server.
But from my perspective, the two things that you pointed out arnt the causes.
One reason I can sorta point out, is that previously the server had a 130 max pop, because for the longest time it never reached even 80 pop. But as the game became more popular, edventually the server was partially being used my LRP players as an overflow server.
There are definitely other people who could point out more reasons than me, but from my perspective the two you pointed out arnt the major reasons
I only had stated some recent issues which has disallowed players to freely RP. I can agree that it is used by LRP players as an overflow server and I hope soon we can see potentially two different whitelist requests. I don’t think players should be able to get accepted for both Grashopper and Salamander from just one request. I think we should see more demanding playtime and dedication to RP for Salamander to be considered for newer players.
Technically you can use “roleplay” as a rationale to justify just about anything if you are so inclined, and it could feasibly open the floodgates for a lot of misunderstanding with the game admins because the game admin then has to determine if said roleplay justification is being done in good faith or bad faith(i.e. metagaming etcetera). They already have their work cut out for them as it is, having them play the part of rule lawyer in a sort-of grey-area roleplay mire just makes their job unreasonably difficult.
I fail to see how these issues are contributing to “ruining the entire point of MRP.” They are way too small to do that.
You can always build a medibot for sec, I suppose.
It would be a bit weird if the Bartender Monkey (the monkey made to tend to the bar) suddenly up and decided “OOO! OOO AA AAA OOOH!” (Y’know what? I think I want to transfer departments.)
Not to mention that, while it may be moderately easy emote your way into transferring, random players seeing a Pun Pun out of the bar will likely assume they have just gone AWOL. You’d need proper in-game implementation of multi-role Pun Puns for broad acceptance.
You shouldn’t let minor restrictions like this impede your ability to have a fun roleplay experience, regardless. Maybe make suggestions or feature requests about the issues you’re encountering, or feedback written with less antagonistic language?
I agree my experience with MRP was very poor too In 80% of the games I just see abusive antagonists who will either plant a bomb, kill the entirety of the station or wait for the evac shuttle to arrive to complete their objectives I have done another thread in general and for that small window that antagonist act my experience is terrible, I do just 50-60 minutes of idle/normal round with no incidents or events, then when the shuttle is called knowing that the shift is over, then, BOOM viper or bomb at me, the chief medical officer the death is justified because the syndie wants the hypo spray but the poor part for me, is: couldn’t he have done it earlier? I mean I don’t have to do 60 minutes of CMO labour to get some action I would really have appreciated if they had done it at least 15-30 minutes into the round. the 2nd issue is that security is very harsh in MRP, I played once as an antagonist and attempted to do my objectives then killed my security with lethals even if I don’t fight back at all and sec then leaves me to rot (I actually had Ahelped that round but got no answer) on the station, while I could have at least expected an execution order from someone and even a trial. the 2nd issue is that the command doesn’t care about itself, when the shuttle comes and docks if some command member dies rather than mention it or/and make an effort to save them if the station is in good condition, they would rush to the evac shuttle and wait it to leave , in other words killed command getting marooned, in LRP it is fine but in MRP it is harsh and self-antaging behaviour from the players who play command not caring about their command-mates. I really want a more interactive experience in MRP servers, antagonists who dare to try and admit their failures, not just wait for evac shuttle and be shitters.
Edit: @ToasterStrudels just seen a few rounds where there were antagonist shitters, either shuttle bombing or mass RDM(taking a bunch of guns and shooting the entirety of the crew like nukies for a head of stuff objective item that shouldn’t require killing any Head of staff or other crew) together and when I asked admins that they were low roleplay and doing a lame antagonizing behaviour he ignores it and told me ‘that it just happens’. excuse me? I choose MRP for a reason and that it to have roleplay interactions with everyone not have an antagonist saying, “OH I have a gun” and get killed on the spot without any escalation from the antagonizing side. Salamander MRP has hit a rock bottom and other MRP servers even those on Royny’s marine corp will enforce better roleplay behaviour (even I got bowinked in a time,but seeing how terrible the rp is here I think I deserved it now) than the salamander.