Tang129 - "Ahelp in bad faith. Harrassment of other players. Lying in ahelp. We take claims of harassment very seriously, and you have made multiple claims at this point that, after careful review including-

Username: Tang129

Ban reason: "Ahelp in bad faith. Harrassment of other players. Lying in ahelp. We take claims of harassment very seriously, and you have made multiple claims at this point that, after careful review including-
Length of ban: Indefinite
Ban Issue:
I did not do what I was banned for

Events leading to the ban

(Continuing ban reason) chat logs and replay reviews, prove that you were in fact the aggressor and/or instigator of harassment towards multiple players. As such, you will be indefinitely banned."

I am not 100% sure this is everything that happened, since i wasnt given the round information to find the replay in my ban reason, but from what i remember of the round I was playing as detective. This same detective, Vienna Metalo, was the character I was previously playing as when I was banned (and appealed) for the first time. During this round, there were two signifigant events happening related (at least I assume) to me being banned. The first was a clown with a long ass, weird name attacking people with a toy esword in the corridor between security and science (not sure which station, but ik that sci and sec are right next to eachother, with a small hallway w/ robotics at the end of the hall near chapel) that could be seen through the window. Because of the screaming I heard coming from the wall, the fact that we were on some sort of alert bc of stolen goods(?)(again, unsure cuz couldnt find replay), and people saying “Esword!”, I thought it was an Esword and went to apprehend them. I used my disabler, taking their toy, only then for them to say it was a toy. I decided that it was only gonna cause a headache for sec, especially in the clown’s hands, so I gave it to warden. The clown told me that he would have his revenge or something like that, and I went on with my shift. Later on, the clown was suspect for having stolen something (again, unsure cuz replay), and I saw them being chased by a secoff in a suit. I assisted them in arresting the clown, and helped bring them to security to detain them and confirm their status as an antag. While I was trying to process them, among people asking me to scan stuff for fingerprints and having a conversation with other sec, the clown was shouting at me from inside a cell. I dont believe I moved them to the cell, I remember bringing them to a locker to search first. The clown was saying I was shit at my job, that i didnt know what i was doing, that I was stupid and an idiot, that i should never play security, a bunch of insults. While this was happening, I was also having to deal with the reporter (more later). After a while of this, i was getting genuinely frustrated at this person insulting me while i try to do the job they tell me i am shit at, and I say something in LOOC that was admittedly too agressive. I cursed at them and told them that they had no actual criticisms to give, and just insults, before saying I was just going to cryo. I went to cryo, and sat there for a while, before deciding to stay in round. A while after that, I ran into the clown again, and once again they were being rude and throwing insults (to which I did throw back). This is when I ahelped about a clown with a long name harassing me, bc i genuinely thought this player constantly insulting me every time they saw me constituted harassment. I only made an ahelp about this one person, no one else. The two messages the admin sent me was asking for more context to my original message, and saying that they would “look into it”.

The second main thing going on that shift was a reporter breaking into security multiple times to interview working secoffs and the recently detained crew as they were being processed. This reporter was given multiple warnings to leave security, ask for permission to enter, or even just to stop bothering sec. This happened so much, to the point that IC i got angery and told the reporter that I would “toss their camera out an airlock” if they trespassed again. This is in the middle of security detaining the clown. After dealing with some actual security work, I had witnessed this same reporter breaking into sec more than once again and decided to follow through on what I told them earlier. I attempted to grab their camera more than once, and we struggled back and forth with grabbing it. I forget what happened, but something caused them to not be able to grab the camera, and I slipped away with it before tossing it just outside of evac. After this, I played out the rest of the round, and once we disconnected from CC, and went back to the lobby I saw that it was late my time (like 1-2 AM), and decided that I had enough ss14 that night. I hadn’t recieved an ahelp after being told the admin was “looking into it”, so I had assumed that I was alright to log off for the night. The next time I tried playing lizard, I was banned.

Reason the ban should be removed

I just want to start off by saying this is the second time i have been appeal banned wihout consideration for any temp ban, the second time ive been banned by the same game moderator, and the second time ive ever been banned in SS14 wizden. In the ban reason, its stated that I made “multiple” claims of harassment, and that I lied about harassing multiple players. Everything I told the admin in ahelp, from my perspective at the time, was true. I also only made claims about one player, not multiple. I did not make my ahelp in bad faith, as I was genuinely under the assumption that this player was harassing me and targeting me for taking away their toy. If the reason i was appeal banned this time is because I have a history of being banned (once), why do those still stack on future bans if i have since appealed them and waited the week to get unbanned, and another to be able to play security again?

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Alright, I’ve read through the ahelp - I’m of the opinion that it wasn’t in bad faith, but that, essentially, they were matching your energy. You confiscated non-contra off them - that’s fine, you can justify it, started threatening them with a black eye, took their insuls off them for whatever reason, and then you two started throwing insults at one another. You tried to give them a tremendous sentence of 17 minutes for invalid crimes, too. This does not excuse them being toxic back to you, but it does help explain it. There’s some other eyebrow-raising stuff, but that’s the gist - and I don’t want to imply that everything mentioned is unjustified on your part, the reporter incident seems fair enough.

From your previous ban, the issue seems to be less that you’re ahelping in bad faith - because these people are being rude and sometimes even toxic with you - but that you yourself are initiating these situations and then ahelping over them when they continue to escalate.

All the same, I get the sense that you’re appealing in good faith - you take great pains to explain your point of view on the matter, and that does count in your favor.

I’m going to lift the ban, but I’m also going to strongly suggest that you try and take it easy vis-a-vis roleplay going forward. If you’re aggro, people are going to feel justified in matching that aggro.

I’m also going to accompany this with another security roleban, for one week. This isn’t the first time I’ve handed you one - review spacelaw and sentencing, please.

Added appeal-accepted and removed appeal-pending

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