The ability to crawl

ricco2077 · September 26, 2024, 10:43am

the bottom line is this: you press a certain button and the character crawls, everything is simple, but his speed is reduced to 30% regardless of any factors (a spacesuit or something like that) in such a state, you need to aim accurately from a weapon as if he fell into crit and if a person runs out of stamina, he also begins to crawl and is given only 20-30 stamina units (for balance)

Clone0401 · September 26, 2024, 12:15pm

I’m not sure the state of it, but I’m pretty sure there is a PR to add crawling right now.

ricco2077 · September 26, 2024, 6:07pm

ou e

Marzie · September 27, 2024, 11:15am

This one?

github.com/space-wizards/space-station-14

The stun meta is kinda boring, here's an idea!

opened 04:16PM - 26 Jul 23 UTC

QuietlyWhisper

## Description Nobody is working on this yet, but it might be a good start. … _**This is simply a list of proposed changes. Everything is subject to change and no contributor has yet to take this up.**_ Basically in the current meta stuns are the best weapon. With just batons alone, two hits can permanently remove a player or antagonist from the game with little to no effort. It’s likely one of if not the most boring combat types as well, due to no actual physical damage being done, making armor and weapons redundant. We’re proposing changes to how stamina crit works, so that stunned players are not entirely helpless. Effects more akin to paralyzation should be given a new effect under that name, with the current stun effects. Proposed changes are as follows: - Stuncritee falls over, dropping anything they were holding. - Stuncritee has a -% movement penalty, meaning they can move while stamina crit, although very slowly. This would be called crawling. - Stuncritee is able to use hands and implants while in stun, picking up items dropped on the floor, and is able to attack. - This should resolve any issues of nuclear operative equipment being easily made obsolete. - Holding a stuncritee stops movement. This can be reused from the cuffed code. - Resolves any issues of players moving out of cuff range or interrupting this by moving. - Cuffing should have a higher damage threshold to cancel, so punches may not cancel it but someone with a weapon could. - Resolves a handful of issues where security wouldn’t be able to arrest minor crimes. - Slips, including being stunned via pie should also fall under this effect. Results of these changes: Security will be required to use weapons vs nuclear operatives Crew and syndicates can resist arrest violently, in which case security may need to use lethal force to put criminals in crit. Current server rules already allow for this. Other means of takedowns will be explored as stuns will not always be the best solution to every problem anymore. People may violently resist arrest at their own risk. The officer is not at fault for raising escalation if you attack them to prevent being cuffed. Officers have already been given equipment if this situation occurs. More gunfights and less melee fights? Community Issues: None yet? Community suggestions: - Modify Stamina regeneration, changing it from an instant full recovery from stamcrit to a progressive one. (thirst and hunger status may change regeneration values and/or stamina max.) - - This sounds interesting, to ensure stamina damage is still effective. I'm just not sure how this will effect the game yet. - Manually toggle crawling to prevent? being disarmed on stun crit - - This could actually be added into the game after, as we don't currently have a crawl/prone function yet. I don't really know what it's used for in ss13 but I'm sure someone else does. - Remove stun restart timer, and add negative stun value. like if you hit stamcrit target with stun weapon they will get longer stamcrit but add capacity for it then we don't get like 10000 second stamcrit. - - This is an interesting take on keeping stuns relevant. It could reward having security work together, but may also have the unintended effect of having no change on the game, since a single officer would also be able to increase stun times for no real reason. - Stamina damage resistant armor? - - This would probably be unnecessary with the proposed changes, on top of this already being denied. - Chemicals that reduce knockdown times exist. - “Holding a stuncritee stops movement. This can be reused from the cuffed code.” This should initiate an unbreakable doafter for like 0.8 seconds to actually grab them - - This suggestion seems redundant, pulling is already instant. This would also slow down the flow of arrests - unable to bring items out of your bag but you are able to pull them from your pocket - - sounds entirely fine.

ricco2077 · September 27, 2024, 11:46am

yep

ricco2077 · October 2, 2024, 6:00pm

6 days…

ricco2077 · October 17, 2024, 8:43pm

if I’m not mistaken, there are already developments on the topic of my proposal from a third-party developer (I saw it on one RU server)

ShadowCommander · October 18, 2024, 6:07pm

We talked about this a few times on the Discord:
NewMed discussion
Continuation

I don’t have time to summarize, but take a look if you want to see points for and against implementing crawling.