The_King_In_Yellow - "Taking part in a total station takeover that lead to monsterous amount of non-target round removals and no way inline with related objectives level of destruction."

Username: The_King_In_Yellow

Ban reason: "Taking part in a total station takeover that lead to monsterous amount of non-target round removals and no way inline with related objectives level of destruction."
Length of ban: 1440 minutes
Ban Issue:
I did what I was banned for, but the ban is unreasonably harsh

Vote Opt-Out: false

Events leading to the ban

I was a traitor. I had two objectives:

  1. Keep a bartender (fellow traitor) alive,
  2. steal the hypospray

Using comms the traitors all shared codewords and agreed to group up in the bar. We met in the bar. Another traitor, Armok Scrungus, came up with a plan to help us all complete our objectives. We took over the ATS and bought guns. Immediately prior to this the fellow traitor I had to protect was arrested. I didn’t engage in the melee that occurred during his arrest, because I knew he would stay alive in a cell. I could see on my objective list he was alive, so I proceeded to follow the group of traitors until I could get to the CMO.

This then led to an outright takeover of the station (I had no idea this was the plan). My fellow traitors used this opportunity to kill basically everybody and gib a lot of crew. If you can watch back the gameplay footage (I think recordings are a thing? I don’t know) you’ll see I didn’t participate in much of that. I shot at some people, but that’s it. I made a point not to attack anybody who wasn’t attacking me. I was focused entirely on finding the CMO.

I did eventually find the CMO, in space. I don’t know why the CMO left the medbay to go on a spacewalk. He had been killed by a skeleton, apparently, who took his things. I learned this after the end of the round. At some point in the chaos my target whom I had to protect died. I had no way of resolving that objective at that point.

Apart from attempting to kill security who targeted me I don’t think I was overly destructive. I didn’t kill random crew. I even brought the nuke disk back to the station which the captain took to ATS.

Reason the ban should be removed

I feel like I was not given enough of a chance to explain my role in the events in dealing with the admin who issued the ban; however, I did apologize at the time. I’ve never had any issues before and have put in a fair number of hours. I feel like I could have been given a stern warning… rather than a ban. Sorry again.

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Addendum: Here is the entire round from my perspective.

You may note that I killed one (1) person around 1:16:00 and did not round remove them. I put another person into crit shortly thereafter and did not round remove them. I removed nobody from the round throughout the duration. I spent a considerable amount of time moving towards the medbay, asking for the CMO, and then searching for the hypospray. I interacted with a number of people throughout the round who were not related to my objectives, and who were not hostile to me, and I did nothing to harm them. I did not gib a single body. The ban, therefore, rests on my mere temporary association with people who did contribute to round removals which is not something I have any control over. Furthermore, I think it would be unreasonable to suggest I should police the actions of other traitors in the game when their objectives are unknowable to me.

To that I would add – the simple fact that there are codewords in the game which allow traitors to identify one another would suggest that traitors are encouraged to work together. One of the criticisms I received from the admin who messaged me at the end of the round was that I did not have an objective to help the other traitors (and thus by implication should not have participated in the events) but this seems entirely counterintuitive to the actual mechanics of the game.

Closing as this ban has expired. Thank you for your provided context if you have a complaint on how this ban was handled, please make a staff complaint by following the instructions on the fourm home.

Added appeal-rejected and removed appeal-pending