I’m not going to be processing this appeal because I placed the ban, but I do want to make it extremely clear what exactly you did that led to this ban.
TLDR
You decided to “shitpost” by literally shitting on someone twice, about 24 hours apart, in a channel where you know people are warned for normal shitposting. You got warned after the first time to not do it, and warned + timed out the second time. Then you DMed me to insist that they should get the same treatment for what you knew was different behavior, and talked yourself into a discord ban.
Details
First, for no apparent reason you posted in admin-questions saying “unfunny YouTube man being unfunny” in response to an admin answering someone’s question with “is this a joke? of course not”. For this, you were replied to with the following message:
please only use this channel for questions for admins and especially not for making comments about other people
That is in my opinion atypically lenient. You didn’t get a warning via the bot, which means that it’s unlikely any discord moderator would have been aware of the warning unless they had personally seen the message. This means that from a consequences perspective it’s likely it wouldn’t have affected you at all, unless of course you decided to do the exact same thing in the exact same channel about 24 hours later.
24 hours later, you did the exact same thing in the exact same channel.
The only way you could have demonstrated more disregard for the warning you got earlier would have been to do it sooner, but I’m not sure that there were any opportunities for that. The fact that you did this to the same person raises the question of if you’re trying to harass them. Instead of just banning you at this point, I checked your discord warning history and saw it was empty so I decided to give you a discord warning and time you out for 24 hours to make it as clear as I felt I could without banning you that you need to stop.
Your immediate response to this, before your message could even be deleted, was to DM me on discord insisting that there was bias in favor of YouTubers. My response was point out just one of the differences between what you two did:
your shitposting is shitting on another person their shitposting was correctly pointing out that I misread something and then asking if that makes them an admin
For around the next hour, with over 50 messages, you tried to argue with me that this was a case of bias while I would ask you for links to where the other person was actually doing the same thing you had just done, shit on someone else, get warned for it, then do the same thing again. Despite knowing that the other person had not done the same thing as you, you never really backed down and called it “extremely biased”. In response to me saying:
no you shit on another person in admin-questions, were warned not to, then did the exact same thing again. link me to where they did that
Instead of admitting that you cannot link to where they did that because you had no evidence of anything they did that could be perceived as that, you said that you guess next time you’ll just shitpost without shitting on anyone “since that’s okay”. Nowhere in my messages to you did I say it is, and you knew that because your argument was you should both be warned because you both shitposted, even though you knew there was a difference between the two cases because I repeatedly highlighted the differences. Your statement was essentially “alright then I’ll continue breaking the rules, doing things I was specifically told to not do, but I’ll do less severe stuff”. I hope you don’t think it was going to be seen favorably to you.
Eventually you acknowledged that they never attacked people, and that all they did was shitpost, yet for some unknown reason you still felt that what you did and what they did should be treated the same. I asked you
can you give me any good explanation for why you’d do the exact same thing you were told to not do in the exact same place?
You didn’t answer, so I asked again
everything you have provided me leads me to believe you’re aware that you two did not do the same thing and that you are going to continue to cause issues after your timeout expires. Can you give me a good explanation for why you did the exact same thing you were told to not do in the exact same place?
Your response was that you did it because he isn’t funny. I asked why you did it after being warned to not, and you said you didn’t think you’d get warned again because he kept talking in the channel. I do not believe you, there is absolutely no thought put into your actions if this was your true motivation and reasoning for continuing. I banned you from the discord because your behavior and answers to the questions that I asked you throughout the hour you feigned ignorance in my DMs in a conversation you started and had multiple opportunities to leave led me to believe you’d continue to cause issues after your timeout expired. Again, this was a conversation where you specifically said you’d continue to shitpost in admin-questions.
Content Creators
Normal shitposting is always going to be treated differently than harassing someone, especially if you’ve been warned to stop. Someone who’s response to not being able to harass someone is pretty much “I’ll just do other things I know are against the rules instead” is always going to get harsher responses than someone who was only ever shitposting.
I think most of us don’t know who does and doesn’t post videos to YouTube. Based on this interaction, I assume you don’t, but without it I wouldn’t know whether or not you do. I can’t speak for the discord mod team, but as far as the admin team, I suspect most of the people an admin knows are content creators they only know about because they got banned and their own YouTube video was how we got the report.
